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Author:  Michael Dale Payne [ Wed May 18, 2005 2:26 am ]
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Hey guys I'm not the only one that can draw plans. I know that a lot of you have plans for guitars, jigs and tooling you have drawn. I encourage you to submit some of these to Lance for inclusion in the Library of Plans. After all the intent of the library was to be a way for the general membership to help support the forum as well as aid our fellow luthiers. So if you have a plan for a guitar, jig or other tooling that you would like to contribute, please do so. If you have hand drawn plans that you would like redrawn to AutoCad before submitting to the library then PM me. I could probably redraw them to AutoCad in a very short turn around and at no charge if submitted to the library

Author:  Brock Poling [ Wed May 18, 2005 3:44 am ]
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How about requests?

I would love to see that pin router of Keith MacKenzie's as a set of plans. I am sure I can think of more if I spend 5 minutes thinking....


Author:  Michael Dale Payne [ Wed May 18, 2005 3:59 am ]
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Kieth are you listing, I would be willing to put it no AutoCad but I would need the data

Brock all I see in the jigs and fixtures by Keith is the Side Profiler. I assume you are speeking of a vertical pin router fixture.

Author:  Brock Poling [ Wed May 18, 2005 4:15 am ]
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Yes. The mini pin router that he has in the jigs section that you can easily use to route pockets for inlay.

That is a sweet idea, and could make easy work of hard to inlay woods (like maple, etc.)


Author:  dubell [ Wed May 18, 2005 4:38 am ]
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I make my own Cam Clamps based off a Klempsia that I bought. I would be glad to contribute on how to make them if you think anyone would be interested. I could draw something up and detail a step by step construction process.

Doug Ubele

Author:  Michael Dale Payne [ Wed May 18, 2005 4:44 am ]
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Oh. Ok I am building a version as we speak. I did plan on contributing the plans after test runs. I am going on vacation Friday and will be back in a couple weeks. When I get back I will try finish up the fixture and test. Work out the kinks and submit it. The one I am bulding will have 20" of travel in the "X" plane and 24" in the "Y" plane with interchangeable pins to match the router bit dia.(collet type fitting) I am trying to work out a good micro depth adjustment but I am not happy just yet.MichaelP38490.5741782407

Author:  Michael Dale Payne [ Wed May 18, 2005 4:45 am ]
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[QUOTE=dubell] I make my own Cam Clamps based off a Klempsia that I bought. I would be glad to contribute on how to make them if you think anyone would be interested. I could draw something up and detail a step by step construction process.

Doug Ubele[/QUOTE]

Ideal Idea

Author:  Michael Dale Payne [ Wed May 18, 2005 4:59 am ]
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By the way I did a bit of an experment on making a patterns for cutting my logo inlay out of raw pearl using this process. I took a ready cut logo casted it in friendly plastic. this gave me a negative of my logo. Then pored finishing resign into the negitive mold of my logo. Zapoo! I have both a positive and negative pattern for the pin router. one to cut the logo and one to cut the channel.

Author:  Brock Poling [ Wed May 18, 2005 5:42 am ]
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Yeah, I was thinking of doing the same thing with a positive and negative of my logo. My logo is very small on snake head pegheads and hard to cut by hand. I thought this might make easier work of it.

If you are still in the design stage of this, one thing I think might be an improvement is to ditch the dremel and put in a PC310 (or equivalant) lam trimmer. That might make the micro depth adjustment a non issue.

Brock Poling38490.6134490741

Author:  Michael Dale Payne [ Wed May 18, 2005 6:01 am ]
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What I am shooting for is an adjustment that you could zero on the work surface and fine tune depth without messing with the router and regardless of router device. I have to admit that my prototype is setup for a dremel but it could be adapted for most lminate trimers. As is I would have some concern about lateral deflection with a laminate trimers extra weight cantalevered off the rails. but I got some very tight ball bearing rails so if there is any deflection it is due to the router bawe mount material and not the rails. I have several time added Inlay to existing guitars by pulling the frets and cutting the channels with the fretboard on the guitar. I have a simple jig to level the neck for this procedure so I want to build an adjust able base that will fit over a completed guitar That is what drove the 20" "X" travel.MichaelP38490.6289351852

Author:  Keith M [ Wed May 18, 2005 6:30 am ]
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[QUOTE=MichaelP] Kieth are you listing, I would be willing to put it no AutoCad but I would need the data

Brock all I see in the jigs and fixtures by Keith is the Side Profiler. I assume you are speeking of a vertical pin router fixture.[/QUOTE]

Yes Michael,There is a router fixture by me in the jigs section ,when I get home I'll send you the info. I'm out of town for a couple more weeks. Keith

Author:  Don A [ Thu May 19, 2005 5:58 am ]
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Keith, I downloaded the pin router directory from your web site a while back when you sent me the URL. If you'd like, I'll post a link to it here when I get home this evening. For those of you who like to visit web sites at your own leisure, I'd suggest picking up a capture program such as QuadWeb.

Author:  Brock Poling [ Fri May 20, 2005 2:14 am ]
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Can you elaborate on this. Pin Router Directory? Capture Program? (Don't you just save the files you want to a directory on your hard drive?)

Author:  Michael Dale Payne [ Fri May 20, 2005 2:46 am ]
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Doug Ubele will be sending me a set of sketches of his cam clamps design to draw to AutoCad and submit to the plan library. I will be back from vacation in a week or so and will hoop right on them. Let's all thanks Doug for his contribution . Come on guys get those plans in and help expand our library.

MichaelP38492.5202662037

Author:  Don A [ Fri May 20, 2005 5:10 am ]
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[QUOTE=Brock Poling]
Can you elaborate on this. Pin Router Directory? Capture Program? (Don't you just save the files you want to a directory on your hard drive?)[/QUOTE]

Brock, I just enter a URL into the program (say http://ww.luthiersforum.com). You tell the program how deep to follow the links (believe its called spidering) and whether to go forward and backwards. This method saves the whole site and all images. When I captured the OLF it also captured everones site that has a link, so you have to be careful how many layers you capture.   

Author:  Brock Poling [ Fri May 20, 2005 5:36 am ]
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Interesting. Thanks for the tip.

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